Comments on: Frameworks for Web 2.0 http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/ Mon, 08 Nov 2010 13:39:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Tim F. http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-24 Tim F. Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:55:45 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-24 Has anything changed in terms of what is the best overall framework and/or best framework with php? Has anything changed in terms of what is the best overall framework and/or best framework with php?

]]> By: Peter Flynn http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-23 Peter Flynn Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:38:59 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-23 Thank Micheal - we will check it out if/when we have a chance. The theory/promise sounds good... Thank Micheal – we will check it out if/when we have a chance. The theory/promise sounds good…

]]> By: Michal Slaby http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-22 Michal Slaby Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:24:21 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-22 It's over year after original posting, but hell ;-) I started developing Tigermouse AJAX framework for PHP with pretty much the same goals in mind. Now, after nearly 1 year of development it is staging well and offers all that you pointed, except for IDE (but as it uses HTML templates, any HTML IDE will do) and scaffolding. Strictly OOP, MVC architecture based, with native AJAX support and good environment separation (command line or web) for easy testing. Good development tools built-in. Robust and lightweight - scales well. Take a look at http://tigermouse.epsi.pl It’s over year after original posting, but hell ;-)

I started developing Tigermouse AJAX framework for PHP with pretty much the same goals in mind. Now, after nearly 1 year of development it is staging well and offers all that you pointed, except for IDE (but as it uses HTML templates, any HTML IDE will do) and scaffolding.
Strictly OOP, MVC architecture based, with native AJAX support and good environment separation (command line or web) for easy testing. Good development tools built-in. Robust and lightweight – scales well.

Take a look at http://tigermouse.epsi.pl

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]]> By: Peter Flynn http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-20 Peter Flynn Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:43:11 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-20 Currently at BarCamp Cape Town - Jeremy Thurgood spoke about Nevow, a Python based framework/"web application construction tool kit." Looks powerful and I would like to get some thoughts about Nevow vs. other frameworks in the debate - so please contribute if you have any thoughts... Here are some links I found useful: http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodNevow http://divmod.org/projects/nevow Currently at BarCamp Cape Town – Jeremy Thurgood spoke about Nevow, a Python based framework/”web application construction tool kit.” Looks powerful and I would like to get some thoughts about Nevow vs. other frameworks in the debate – so please contribute if you have any thoughts…

Here are some links I found useful:
http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/DivmodNevow
http://divmod.org/projects/nevow

]]> By: BarCamp Cape Town at Web 2.0, AJAX http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-19 BarCamp Cape Town at Web 2.0, AJAX Sat, 17 Jun 2006 12:39:50 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-19 [...] Jeremy Thurgood spoke about Nevow, a Python based framework/”web application construction tool kit.” Looks powerful and I would like to get some thoughts about Nevow vs. other frameworks in the debate - so please contribute if you have any thoughts… I will edit this post as things develop… [...] [...] Jeremy Thurgood spoke about Nevow, a Python based framework/”web application construction tool kit.” Looks powerful and I would like to get some thoughts about Nevow vs. other frameworks in the debate – so please contribute if you have any thoughts… I will edit this post as things develop… [...]

]]> By: Peter Flynn http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-18 Peter Flynn Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:14:47 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-18 Hi Krzysztof Here is an article worth looking at which came to the conclusion that Symphony is the best PHP Framework: http://www.mustap.com/phpzone_post_73_top-10-php-mvc-frameworks This is also cool for a quick comparison: http://www.phpit.net/article/ten-different-php-frameworks/ Symphony and Cake seem to compare very closely except for Cake's PHP4 support/backward compatibility. I would say if you already have projects running on Symphony and you are familiar with it, it is a good call. the Symphony community is good and the framework isn't going anywhere. It seems to have all the right pieces... Hi Krzysztof

Here is an article worth looking at which came to the conclusion that Symphony is the best PHP Framework: http://www.mustap.com/phpzone_post_73_top-10-php-mvc-frameworks

This is also cool for a quick comparison: http://www.phpit.net/article/ten-different-php-frameworks/

Symphony and Cake seem to compare very closely except for Cake’s PHP4 support/backward compatibility.

I would say if you already have projects running on Symphony and you are familiar with it, it is a good call. the Symphony community is good and the framework isn’t going anywhere. It seems to have all the right pieces…

]]> By: Peter Flynn http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-13 Peter Flynn Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:03:27 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-13 Hi Jason Here is a great, balanced and unbiased article kinda summarising what most people seem to be saying about the CakePHP vs Code Igniter question: http://codyfoss.com/blog/2006/03/22/php-frameworks-phpcake-vs-code-igniter/ Because OOP (strong and enforced MVC separation) and built in Web 2.0 libraries are both important considerations for us (WWW) Cake still comes out tops for us. Built in framework enforced coding standard/conventions really assists the team when there are multiple developers. I think Cake has stronger standards in this regard. We will certainly keep Code Igniter on our list of PHP Frameworks to monitor. The frequent comment from those who prefer Code Igniter seems to be the simplicity and the documentation that Code Igniter has which makes it strong. Hi Jason
Here is a great, balanced and unbiased article kinda summarising what most people seem to be saying about the CakePHP vs Code Igniter question: http://codyfoss.com/blog/2006/03/22/php-frameworks-phpcake-vs-code-igniter/

Because OOP (strong and enforced MVC separation) and built in Web 2.0 libraries are both important considerations for us (WWW) Cake still comes out tops for us. Built in framework enforced coding standard/conventions really assists the team when there are multiple developers. I think Cake has stronger standards in this regard.

We will certainly keep Code Igniter on our list of PHP Frameworks to monitor.

The frequent comment from those who prefer Code Igniter seems to be the simplicity and the documentation that Code Igniter has which makes it strong.

]]> By: Peter Flynn http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-10 Peter Flynn Sat, 17 Jun 2006 09:28:47 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-10 Hi Mutant Why don't you like Ruby? Please elaborate... Hi Mutant
Why don’t you like Ruby? Please elaborate…

]]> By: Jason http://www.whitewallweb.com/blog/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-17 Jason Sat, 17 Jun 2006 04:17:17 +0000 http://www.whitewallweb.com/2006/06/12/frameworks-for-web-20/#comment-17 I like Code Igniter it's small and fast easy to use, and stays out of your way. I like Code Igniter it’s small and fast easy to use, and stays out of your way.

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